Wednesday, September 23, 2009
The Sabbath of the Return
"Shabbat Shuvah ."
This is a very special sabbath, the first of the Jewish year– Shabbat Shuvah is also called the Sabbath of Return –always occurs between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur; it receives its name from a verse in Hosea: “Return, O Israel, to the Lord your God, for you have fallen because of your sin.”
Some call the day Shabbat Teshuvah, the Sabbath of Repentance, because it is observed during the Ten Days of Repentance. The defining custom of this Shabbat is an admonitory sermon by the rabbi designed to inspire and awaken listeners to examine their deeds and return to God. The rabbi may also review the laws of Yom Kippur. Some communities add readings from Joel 2:15-27 and Micah 7:18-20 that elaborate the Yom Kippur themes of repentance and forgiveness. Joel focuses on purification and fasting by the people and Micah on God’s promise to forgive the people: “He will take us back in love; He will cover up our iniquities, You will hurl all our sins into the depths of the sea” (Micah 7:19).
Sunday, August 23, 2009
America's JUDEO - Christian Roots

"Scholars often mistakenly refer to the god of the Founders as a deist god. But the Founders talked about God in terms that are radically Jewish: Creator, Lawgiver, Governor, Judge, and Providence. These were the names they most commonly used for Him, notably in the Declaration of Independence. For the most part, these are not names that could have come from the Greeks or Romans, but only from the Jewish Testament. Perhaps the Founders avoided Christian language because they didn’t want to divide one another, since different colonies were founded under different Christian inspirations. In any case, all found common language in the language of the Jewish Testament. It is important for citizens today whose main inspiration is the Enlightenment and Reason to grasp the religious elements in the founding, which have been understated for a hundred years."
Faith and the American Founding: Illustrating Religion's Influence
by Michael Novak
First Principles #7
Monday, August 10, 2009
A Peaceful Ninth of Av
Simply as a point of interest, this particular Rosh Hashanah will be accompanied by an unusual alignment of the Earth, Moon, Mercury, the Sun and Saturn. This is cause for great interest and has been addressed in a website called "Rapture Code 5770 (2009 - 2010)." Rosh Hashanah is the Jewish New Year and in the Bible is called the "Feast of Trumpets." There is a lot of speculation that the Lord Jesus Christ will return on a Rosh Hashanah because it is the first of the Fall feasts, and Jesus Christ fulfilled all four of the Spring feasts.
Jesus Christ, in speaking of His second advent said that 'But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. " - Matthew 24:36 (compare Mark 13:32).
Interestingly, at least one source has said that among Jews, Rosh Hashanah is called the feast of which 'no man knows the day or the hour." Eddie Chumney of the Hebraic Heritage Ministries Int'l has dealt with this and the previous verses extensively to show how a Jew hearing Jesus speaking would interpret His words from a rabbinical Hebraic perspective.
Some who have been considering these events in the light of Biblical Eschatology have already began predicting the date of the Lord's return. This has been a big mistake in the past when well meaning men have set a date for the Lord's return and watched their great hope turn into great disappointment. Some who've tried to justify their faulty predictions then took it a step further and 'spiritualized' the return, meaning that it actually happened but no one could see it because it was a spiritual return. This was the case with both the Adventists and the Jehovah's Witnesses.
My take on end time prophecy is that I expect Biblical Eschatology to complete it's fulfillment up to the return of Christ within a generation from the re-birth of Israel as a nation. That happened May 14, 1948. A completed generation is 70 years, so I'm looking for a fulfillment to those prophecies by 2018 - but the fact is that my next breath is in God's hands and I know that millions of Christians who expected to see the imminent return of Christ have been buried centuries ago. Therefore, Jesus' words are apropos for us today when (in a parable) He said, "Occupy 'till I come."
Tuesday, July 28, 2009
A DAY WITHOUT AN EARTHQUAKE?

July 30th begins the Jewish observance of Tisha B’Av or the ninth day of the Hebrew month of Av. (see my previous article). Could the unheard of absence of earthquakes in the world be the ‘quiet before the storm?’ As I've said it's already the 29th in some parts of the world and at sundown in Israel (around 8 pm they begin their observance of the tragic date). That translates to tomorrow morning here in Northern California.
Wednesday, July 22, 2009
Total Solar Eclipse and the Ninth of Av
It was on this day of the Hebrew Calendar in 586 BC that Solomon’s Temple was destroyed. It was on that day in 70 AD that the second (Herod’s) Temple was destroyed and on it goes.
August 4, 135 AD, the Bar Kochba revolt was crushed by the Roman Emperor Hadrian. Over 100,000 Jews were slaughtered; Jerusalem was plowed under and later rebuilt as a pagan city forbidden to Jews.
Pope Urban II declared the First Crusade. Tens of thousands of Jews were killed, and many Jewish communities were obliterated
July 25, 1290 [9 Av 5050] marked the first nation-wide rejection of Jews when the official decree expelling them from England was signed.
In 1492, [9 Av 5252] King Ferdinand of Spain issued the expulsion decree, setting Tish B’Av as the final date by which not a single Jew would be allowed to walk on Spanish soil.
August 6, 1555 [9 Av, 5315] Jews were first ordered into a ghetto on when the Jews of Rome were ordered to live in a district near the Tiber.
W.W. I broke out on [9 Av, 5674] August 1, 1914 when Germany declared war on Russia. German resentment from the war set the stage for the Holocaust. A total solar eclipse occurred on August 21st of that year. (This agrees with the theory that solar eclipses occurring within the proximity of Tish B’ Av effect gentile nations more than Israel which bases their dates on a lunar calendar).
August 2, 1941 [9 Av 5701] Reinhardt Heydrich was ordered to carry out the “final solution” on European Jewry.
August 14, 2005 [9 Av 5765] 8,000 Jewish settlers were forcefully expelled from their homes in Gush Katif, the Southern Gaza strip.
That brings us up to the current trifecta of TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSES that occur around the 1st of Av on each of the year’s 2008, 2009 and 2010.
August 1, 2008 there was a total solar eclipse. On August 8, 2008 [9th of Av] Russia attacked Georgia.
This year, on July 22, 2009 (Today at this writing) a total solar eclipse will occur. It's the only total Solar Eclipse of the year, anywhere on the globe. The 9th of Av happens about 8 days later as well. In our Gregorian calendar that translates to July 29th and 30th (since Hebrew days begin and end in the evening). We’ll see what happens.
If something does occur, then we can expect another event in 2010 when a total solar eclipse repeats on July 11 (1st of Av) and see what happens on July 19 – 20 (9th of Av).
Why do I think that these three solar eclipses are significant? Because this is the only time in (Hebrew) history, they occur in such a pattern in conjunction with this austere Jewish remembrance.
One skeptic has already accused me of inferring that naturally occurring cosmological events determine events on earth. Not true! My answer is this: The order and magnitude of cosmological events is repeated throughout the Biblical record. The Magi, or wise men from the East for example, knew of the birth of the King of the Jews (Christ) by observing ‘signs’ in the heavens. The motion of heavenly bodies does not govern human events on the earth! I never inferred that it did; but rather an all-wise, all knowing God has pre-determined their motions, like the intricate workings of a grand clock, set from the beginning of creation. God said that the sun, moon and stars were for signs (Hebrew: "oth" – meaning a signal, flag or warning) and seasons (Heb: "mo-ed,"festivals, convocations, appointments). – Genesis 1:14
It’s God’s ‘alarm clock’ set by His infinite foreknowledge untold centuries ago, to alert us of coming events. As for me, I am unashamed in taking this unprecedented 'trinity' of total solar eclipses that precede Tish B’Av as God’s signal to prepare for a coming event. Personally, I hope this year’s Tish B’Av will peacefully pass unnoticed; but since I really believe there is danger ahead to prepare for, would I be less than responsible to keep silent?
Frequent Biblical references to events in the sky permeate both the Old and New Testament – Why did Jesus talk about things like,
“…there will be fearful sights and great signs…from heaven.” - Luke 21:11.
Or the Torah which says, “He delivereth and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth.” – Daniel 6:27.
Interestingly however, the Bible also says this, “...be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them." This makes a clear distinction between believers and non-believers. Whatever happens, God has promised to be our "Jehovah Jireh," the provider of all our needs.
The Bible speaks of the sun being darkened and the moon turning blood red as ‘signs’ in both the Old and New Testaments. Isn’t that also a description of both solar and lunar eclipses?
From this moment you have six days to prepare. I would at least have extra food and water available, to last a minimum of a week. Frankly, that is not too bad an idea in the world we live in anyway. Fueling up vehicles and propane containers (by July 27th ) as well.
Flashlights, radios extra batteries, lanterns and candles etc. It’s not going to cost any more in the long run whether or not anything actually does happen, but you know the saying – “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” That seems to be the most sensible attitude to have now since nobody knows what and where an event (if any) will happen, on this ‘Tish B’Av.
One should at least consider having emergency supplies on hand in any event. Other suggestions could be found online.
We know the world we live in is becoming more dangerous. Israel is on record affirming that they are not about allow Iran to obtain nuclear weapons, and Iran is on record affirming that their intent is to destroy Israel. We know that Iran has been conducting experiments that seem to indicate they are preparing to initiate an EMP attack. Then there’s North Korea, Venezuela etc.
Last year’s eclipse overshadowed Northern Canada, Greenland, Siberia (Russia), Mongolia, and China. Russia invaded Georgia.
This year it overshadows India, Nepal, China and the Central Pacific.
In 2010 it overshadows the South Pacific, Easter Is., Chile and Argentina.
Whatever the future holds, is it written in the sky?
Friday, April 17, 2009
Orwell's 1984 Comes to 2009 America

ECHOES OF *NAZI GERMANY - THE POLITICIZED DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY:
"The DHS doesn‘t have any evidence or specific information. This is all based on speculation. “The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence,”
*A chilling message on a plaque in the "Nazi Propaganda" section of the Holocaust Museum (Washington DC) explains why: "The Gestapo gathered much of its information from private citizens. Even children were taught to report on their parents. The Gestapo's main sources, however, were Nazi party officials who constantly monitored the activities of all citizens used such information to track political opponents.
Friday, April 10, 2009
The Hand of Providence - Quote of the Month
Thursday, January 29, 2009
Another Writer Who Does Not Accept Pre-Trib Rapture
As you know I support the belief in a pre-tribulation rapture. But there are such a wide variety of opinions, there've been hundreds of false predictions and there remains a lot of controversy concerning the various views of the rapture. I received a comment filed anonymously but signed by "Todd" that I thought deserved a blog segment along with "Roger" (fictitious name) who is an Adventist that is maintaining an ongoing discussion with me, which prompted my posting of The Rapture, Q & A'sYou can read Todds original "Anonymous" comment at the end of The Rapture, Q & A's, or here where I interrupt it and answer questions in a point by point format. Todds comment are in yellow and my responses are in turquoise.
How can the “rapture” be “imminent”?
First, imminent is an adjective meaning ‘likely to occur at any moment.’ Bearing that in mind it doesn’t matter whether you’re pre, mid, or post, the rapture is imminent and was always so since Jesus said, “Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
- Matthew 24:41-44.
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. - Luke 12:36 - 40.
Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven (He is now there with the Father) “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. Since Jesus must personally participate in the rapture, and since He can’t even leave heaven before the tribulation ends, the rapture therefore cannot take place before the end of the trib!
Todd, your above paragraph completely ignores the fact that Jesus did appear on earth following His resurrection and ascension and He clearly identified Himself to Saul of Tarsus [Paul] on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:5) much later. This having followed the martyrdom Stephen, who at that time, clearly saw Jesus standing in heaven at the right hand of God. (Acts 7:56). This alone destroys your interpretation of Acts 3:21. Besides that, Jesus went to heaven following His talk with Mary Magdalene (whom He forbad to touch Him) John 20:1-17. Then He returned to Israel and showed Himself for forty days by many infallible proofs (Acts 1:3). Jesus is nowhere as limited as you think.
Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) (which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening - Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who would be left alive to serve the Antichrist?)
1 Thess. 5:1 does not say that all the worlds wicked shall be wiped out at this time . This is your assumption and it’s not born out by scripture.
The ‘times and seasons’ is a general term that includes both the ‘catching up’ and the ‘day of the Lord’ which are more specific terms and are not synonymous.
Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the posttrib end of “death” (15:54)! (Will death be ended before or during the trib?)
This is proof of the final phase of our redemption - namely the redemption of our bodies. You can shuffle the verses any way you want but that doesn't make it right. While it is the end of death for the resurrected this is NOT the end of death for natural human beings, although lifespans for natural people will be as they were before the flood of Noah.. Never the less death will happen even during the thousand year reign of Christ as will isolated disobedience to the government of Christ!
If anyone wonders how long pretrib rapturism has been taught, he or she can Google “Pretrib Rapture Diehards.” Many are unaware that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 it was stretched forward and turned into a separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which the mass of evangelical scholars rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” ["gathering"] in 2:1 can happen - the height of desperation!). Other Google articles throwing light on long-covered-up facts about the 178-year-old pretrib rapture view include “Famous Rapture Watchers,” “X-Raying Margaret,” “Revisers of Pretrib Rapture History,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Pretrib Rapture Desperados” and “Deceiving and Being Deceived” - all by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” which is available at Armageddon Books online. Just my two cents’ worth. - Todd
The volume of material you’ve listed projects the points you’ve made, all of which I’ve been familiar with. I could list the names of theologians who would counter the writers you’ve listed but I will only mention one since that I believe is sufficient as a definitive study of the rapture of the church: MARANATHA Our Lord Come by Dr. Renald Showers
Saturday, January 3, 2009
The Rapture: Q & A's
There are any number of theories about the "rapture" among believers. The one point of agreement seems to be the realization that a seven year tribulation period unlike the world has seen will occur. Many define that period as distinct from other times of historic tribulation by calling it the 'Great Tribulation (GT)' Others hold that the last half (3.5 years) of the tribulation period is what the Bible refers to as the "Great Tribulation (GT)." It's around this GT period that the different theories concerning the rapture are based. Some, like myself believe that the rapture will occur before the GT. Those who share that belief are called "pre-trib." Those who believe that the rapture occurs in the middle of the seven year tribulation are labeled, "mid-trib." Then there are those who believe the rapture will happen just at the end of the GT period and they are called "post-trib."A gentleman who I will call Roger has e-mailed some questions to me regarding the 'rapture' and I thought it would be interesting to post that correspondence here in my forum. Rogers statements are in larger font, mine responses are in Bold Italics.
Hi, My name is Roger. I want to do some studies on the rapture and many other Biblical topics that could keep us going for as long as we want. We can easily see that things are very serious in this old world and that Jesus is coming back soon! I'm told that you believe in the KJV and that's terrific for the school or stream of manuscripts from which it was translated into the English language is the word that God has promised will be preserved until the end of time.
My studies tell me that we are going to go through a great tribulation before the Lord returns and that when we are finally caught up into the clouds of glory that it will be the most earth shaking event that the world has ever witnessed; and the Lord will descend with a shout & with the voice of the Archangel and the trump of God and the dead in Christ will be caught up to meet Him in the clouds, then we that are alive and remain will then be changed into our glorified bodies and raptured away to join them for the eternal ages.1 Thess. 4:15-17
My understanding of the common interpretation of the secret or silent rapture pivots around the following points: (I personally do not agree that any of these points are biblical).
1. The rapture of the church goes by unnoticed by the unsaved multitude, so it is taught that it must be silent.
The rapture will NOT go by unnoticed by the ‘unsaved multitude.’ When graves pop open and millions of living people suddenly disappear, it will be noticed and chaos will immediately ensue. For example; imagine the pandemonium when people in a crowded bus or airliner suddenly realize seats are emptied – and only the things remaining in those seats are the very clothes those people had been wearing. As far as what those in the world will hear, I don’t know - but according to the Bible there are going to be trumpet blasts accompanied by shouts from the Archangel. (The only ‘archangel’ mentioned in scripture by name is Michael).
2. For the same reason stated above it is assumed that it must be invisible.
That whole premise is wrong. So discard it. The actual “catching away” will not be seen; not because it is invisible, but because it will happen so quickly that it will be imperceptible to the human eye, which is exactly what the Scripture tells us: “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” – 1 Corinthians 15:51, 52. Can you see a bullet in flight? I assure you that it is not invisible but it is virtually impossible to see with the unaided eye.
3. The wicked are left behind and the saved are taken out of harms way.
I would say it this way: Those who are in Christ are raptured and those who are outside of Christ are not.
4. The rapture is believed to take place to remove the saints from having to go through the tribulation.
This is half true. Jesus did describe the time of the tribulation and then made this amazing statement: “For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.” – Lk. 12:35, 36. The real purpose of the Rapture is that the Lord Jesus is coming to receive His bride, (the redeemed) whom He will take back to heaven for seven years. This is described in terms of the Jewish wedding in John 14. When the firstborn son of a man (usually of great wealth) would get married, he would go and prepare a place for his bride in his father’s house since he would soon inherit his father’s holdings. Only when the father gave his OK as to his son’s preparations, would the father tell his son to ‘go and receive your bride.’ At the word of the father, the son would call his grooms men and they would form a procession going toward the bride’s home with much fanfare (blowing trumpets and shouting with rejoicing). Along the streets, people would hear the commotion and the word of it would come to the bride who had been at the ready with her wedding garment, ten coins and lamp filled with oil. When the procession reached the brides home a long loud trumpet blast accompanied by the shout of the groomsman would summon the bride to leave her house and join her husband who waited for her outside. The groom would then take her up into his carriage and return to the place he’d prepared for her. Jesus’ analogy was unmistakable.“Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.” – John 14:1-3.
5. The 2nd coming of Christ takes place in two stages the 1st being silent and secret and the last part being glorious and turbulent.
The second coming of Christ occurs when Jesus physically returns to earth with all His saints, destroys the antichrist and stands on Mt. Olivet. When he comes at that time, every eye shall see Him, the Jews will weep and see the nail prints in His hands. He will cleanse the temple and begin a thousand years reign as King from Jerusalem. (Acts 1:10-12; 2 Thess. 2:8; Rev. 1:6-8; 19:11-16; Zechariah 12:10; 13:6; 14:4
6. These two stages will be separated by a 7 year gap of tribulation.
Seven years according to the Jewish calendar, referred to “Daniels seventieth week” by Bible scholars. This is the last week, the only one yet unfulfilled that was determined on the Jewish people ( Israel ). Daniel 9:23-25. It begins when the antichrist ratifies a seven year peace treaty with Israel, Daniel 9:27: “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
7. The rapture takes place before the appearance of the Antichrist who will then bring in the tribulation.
That’s correct according to 2 Thessalonians 2:7-12: “7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth (hinders) will let (hinder), until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. According to these verses, there is a “hinderer” that is blocking the Antichrist from coming to full power that will be taken out of the way. My belief is that it is the body of believers on earth at that time. If you remember Jesus said, “Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.” – Lk. 17:28, 29.In short, Abraham was told that Sodom and Gomorrah were going to be destroyed. Abraham bargained with God starting by asking if there were as many as fifty righteous in the city, would God spare the city? God promised to spare the city for the sake of the fifty righteous. After continuing his bargaining Abraham obtained a promise that if even there were as few as ten righteous, the Lord would spare the entire city for the ten. So the righteous people, few though they be – would have been like salt, (a preservative), to preserve the cities from the judgment. Jesus said that we are the salt of the earth (Matthew 5:13). That speaks to preserving the world from judgment exactly as ten righteous would have preserved Sodom and Gomorrah from judgment. It was after the righteous Lot and his family left that there was nothing to hinder the cities from God’s wrath which completely destroyed them. The judgment of the earth begins when Jesus opens the first seal in Revelation, which is when the antichrist appears on a white horse with a bow (Revelation 6:2).
8. Those left behind will be given another chance to be converted and make their peace with the Lord.
There will be a numberless multitude saved during the first half of the tribulation. But ALL OF THEM will be killed, (Revelation 6:10, 11) martyred for their testimony. There is no reference in all scripture to believe that those converted during the first half of the tribulation will escape martyrdom. Therefore there can be no mid-tribulation rapture of living saints. The antichrist will make war on them and overcome them. (Daniel 7:21, Revelation 13:6-8). They will refuse to take the ‘mark of the beast’ in their right hand or forehead. Anyone who takes the mark will be damned. These “tribulation martyrs” are first seen after the fifth seal is opened, as souls under the altar, crying out for God to avenge them (Revelation 6:9, 10). The next time we see them, they appear in heaven following the sealing of the 144,000 Jews: “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. “ - Revelation 7:9-14
Part 2
Roger: In Luke 17:34-36, Jesus employs some of His favorite symbols to illustrate a simple point. At the end of time, there will be just two groups of people living upon the earth-the lost and the saved.
Resopnse: Your following interpretations are filled of assumptions, as I will point out. At the outset, you at least warn that you are going to use symbols to interpret the otherwise clear meaning of the words spoken by Jesus. In order for one to arrive at your conclusions one MUST change the plain words spoken by Christ and interpolate them with meanings 'cut and pasted' in from outside of the context. I’ll prove this as I respond to your statements.
Roger: "Two men in one bed." A bed generally connotes sleep, and Jesus used sleep as a symbol of death. He said to the disciples, "Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep." "Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead." (John 11:11, 14). In the resurrection at the last day, there will be two kinds of people sleeping in the grave-the lost and the saved.
Response: In the above explanation you take the word “bed” and twist it to “sleep,” then you further twist that to mean death. This is a very dangerous practice and one that perverts the Word of God. There is NO REASON to take scriptures from one contextual setting and arbitrarily apply them into another to gain understanding.
Roger: "Two women grinding together." In Bible prophecy, a woman is a symbol of a church (Jeremiah 6:2). Grinding grain represents working with the Word of God. When Christ comes in glory, there will be two kinds of churches-the false and the true. Both will be outwardly doing the same thing, but only one will be redeemed.
Response:
Your statements lack consistency: For example that “two women grinding together” according to you is not two women grinding together, but two church systems. To quote you, “…two kinds of churches-the false and the true. Both will be outwardly doing the same thing, but only one will be redeemed.”
Then you use Jeremiah 6:2 as a proof text which has absolutely nothing to do with the church, or a religious system but rather with the nation of Israel. You go on to state, “Grinding grain represents working with the Word of God.” How do you know? From the parable you used as your proof text, the Word was the seed that was sowed, not grain. Jesus said “Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.” Luke 8:11.
Furthermore, using your methods of interpretation I could say the grain represents the godly (as in Matthew 13:24-30) and the wicked are represented by tares (weeds). However there is no reason to “cut and paste” from other parts of the Bible to understand the clear meaning of Matthew 24. See what I mean? What laws of interpretation do you use? In the context of Matthew 24, Jesus was speaking of the Judgment of the flood in Noah's day. The wicked were self absorbed, and, as Jesus put it, (Matthew 24:39) "And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. " Then He immediately says,
40 "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. "
So my conclusion to these verses is that Jesus is not talking about the rapture but a judgment that will occur at the second coming.
But I'm not going to be so dogmatic about it since Jesus could have been likening the rapture to the Jewish Feast of Trumpets which occurs on a new moon. As required the feast cannot commence until two witnesses have seen the new moon which appears for only a few moments in the sky, usually near sundown. After at least two witnesses see it, they would immediately report to the Sanhedrin. Then the Sanhedrin would signal the high priest who would ascend to the top of the temple and blow the Shofar (trumpet) announcing the beginning of the feast. Two could be grinding at the mill, sleeping in bed etc. but at the sound of the trumpet the Jew would drop what he/she was doing and immediately go toward the temple, leaving their non-Jewish working partner to continue with the work. It's interesting to note that one of the names of that feast is the feast of "No Man Knows The Day Or The Hour" and there are 100 trumpet blasts - the last trump being the longest of the blasts. Paul could have been referring to the feast as well when he spoke of the "last trump." (1 Corinthians 15:52). As a gentile I've only just begun to research the seven Jewish feasts (festivals), which are divided into the Spring feasts and the Fall feasts. Jesus fulfilled the 4 spring feasts. I'm beginning to see that the three fall feasts correlate to the rapture, second coming and cleansing of the temple (which hasn't been built as of yet).
Part 3
Roger: You indicated in your last correspondence with me that I had interpolated too much and in retrospect I confess to making that mistake. The conclusions I tried to draw from those text in Luke 17:34-36 were premature. Other studies needed to be laid down before the case was strong enough to stand. You also indicated that you would like to hold to one point at a time before we move on to other related topics before we end up going down too many rabbit trails. Forgive me for not adhering to a tighter focus; I’ll try to do better.
Comment: First, lets define “tribulation.” Both the Hebrew and Greek words for tribulation are associated with the following things:
1. Birth pangs (2 Kings 9:3; Jeremiah 6:24; John 16:21)
2. Sword, famine and pestilence (2 Chronicles 20:9; Job 15:20-23; Acts 7:11)
3. Wars among nations and the removal of peace (2 Chronicles 15:5, 6)
4. Persecution of the saints during the first 3.5 years preceding the abomination of desolation (Matthew 24:9; Daniel 9:27).
The Bible associates the concept of tribulation with the same kinds of things included in the “beginning of birth pangs” (literal translation) of Matthew 24:4-9. These beginning of birth pangs correlate perfectly with the first four seals of Revelation 6.
A. False Messiahs (Matthew 24:5) and the first seal of Revelation - the rider on the white horse, a false messiah (Revelation 6:2).
B. Wars, rumors of wars, nation rising against nation (Matthew 24:6, 7) and the opening of the second seal (Rider of the red horse taking peace away from the world (Revelation 6:3, 4).
C. Famine (Matthew 24:7) and the third seal (Rider of the black horse) holding balances in his hands representing famine (Revelation 6:5, 6)
D. Death through famine, pestilence and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7) and the fourth seal at which time the rider of the pale horse appears, who represents death.
Going a step further, immediately following Jesus’ description of these “beginning of birth pangs” Christ described a particular persecution of those who associate themselves with Him (Matthew 24:9) which correlates with the opening of the fifth seal and refers to those who were killed for their testimony (Revelation 6:9-11).
You suggested we stay focused on Matt. 24 until we’re satisfied with our conclusions, so here goes. In this chapter starting with verse 1 the disciples are pointing to the temple in pride and admiration and Jesus response really startles them. He says verse 2 “See ye not these things? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down.”
Comment: The disciples asked three specific questions whose answers comprise Matthew 24 which, by the way are specific to Israel and generally to the world.
1. When shall these things be?
2. What shall be the sign of thy coming?
3. And (what shall be the sign)of the end of the world?
Jesus proceeds to tell them about many signs that are to take place before the end of their world and generation. He also does this in such a way that it becomes a prophecy for the end of the earth and His second coming; in other words a duel prophecy.
Comment: It is unscriptural to say “the end of the earth” at this point since Jesus Christ will reign in Jerusalem for a thousand years following the tribulation.
This passage has many points of reference that parallel verses starting in Luke 17:22 onward to verse 37; so they compliment and amplify each other. Some details might be left out of one account, but are picked up in the other. E.g. Luke 17:31 “In that day he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away; and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.”
In Matt. 24:15 it describes the abomination of desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel standing in the holy place - this was the signal to leave their place of residence or housetop and not to hesitate or turn back.
Comment: If as you say the abomination of desolation was “the signal” why did the Jewish Christians flee four years earlier? Perhaps you’d like to rethink that one. (Besides, Titus didn't commit the abomination of desolation, for he set no idol up to be worshipped in the Temple).
This is exactly what the Jewish Christians did in 66 A.D. when the Roman armies had surrounded Jerusalem; and planted their flag or standard in the holy ground that surrounded Jerusalem. The Christians left when the Roman armies retreated suddenly to take care of another rebellion. Some 3-4 years later in 70 A.D. the armies of Rome returned and destroyed Jerusalem – no Christians died in the final siege; they had all taken heed of that earlier warning.
Matt. 24:21 speaks about the great tribulation ”...such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time no, nor ever shall be.” Verse 22 continues and says, ”...except those days be shortened, there shall no flesh be saved: but for the elects sake those days shall be shortened.”
Comment: This occurrence (great tribulation) is from the middle of Daniels 70th week to the end of the seven year period culminating in the Battle of Armageddon.
Question: If the elect (or chosen) have already been raptured before the tribulation, why would it be necessary to shorten those days for their sake? Why not let it run its course to total annihilation?
Answer: There are the elect and then Jesus says there are "the very elect." The latter are the 144,000 Jews who are gathered from every point of the compass (Matthew 24:31.) The term ‘elect’ in the Bible is in no way exclusive to the church saints. Many passages refer to national Israel as ‘elect’ or ‘chosen.’
“For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.” – Deuteronomy 7:6
“O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his chosen ones.” - 1 Chronicles 16:13
“For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.” – Isaiah 45:4
In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul also refers to God’s election of national Israel: “As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.” – Romans 11:28.
In a more limited sense, the Bible makes a difference between the faithful (elect) Jews and those Jews who are unfaithful ( Isaiah 65:7-16).
Remember that Matthew 24 deals specifically with national Israel, (Matthew 24:1, 2, 16, 31) which the Millerites, Adventists and many other Christians missed during their time of “great disappointment” because they couldn’t envision in their wildest dreams the restoration of Israel so they made up their own interpretations that "spiritualized" these things to unseen realms rather than what we can see actually happened.
Question: This verse also indicates unless the days be shortened no flesh could be saved. The rapture teaches that 7 years of tribulation will be allowed to the antichrist by the interpretation of the last week of seventy week prophecy. If those that are supposed to reject the antichrist during the seven years of tribulation are the elect where is the shortening of the days?
Comment: The persecution itself will be curtailed, not the 1260 days or the second half of the tribulation.
Matt. 24:23-24 says: “Then if any man shall say unto you, “Lo here is Christ or there believe it not, For there shall arise false Chirsts, and false prophets, and shall shew signs and wonders; insomuch that if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
Question: This chronology has followed the great tribulation and by my understanding of the secret rapture there would be no elect to be deceived. They have already been removed from harms way. How do you explain this discrepancy?
Comment: There is no discrepancy at all. You insist on calling the rapture a 'secret rapture.' Millions will know immediately following the event that the rapture has just taken place. It happens in the twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:51-58) and the restrainer of evil, (the body of believers) is removed from the earth (1 Thessalonians 4:16-20; 5:) which then allows the rule of the Antichrist to begin, (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12) and the Jews who are looking for a messiah will accept him (John 5:43). On the day that this man ratifies a seven year peace treaty with the Jews [most likely allowing them to once again build their Temple on the Temple Mount next to the Dome of the Rock Mosque] will begin Daniels 70th week - Revelation 11:1-3). He will break the seven year covenant after three and a half years, or the middle of Daniels 70th week ("And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."- Daniel 9:27).
But for the first three and a half years, many millions of those who realized they missed the rapture, will then repudiate the antichrist and reject his mark (probably a chip implant) in their right hand or forehead. They will all, I repeat, ALL be killed for their testimony by the middle of the tribulation (Revelation 6:9-11; 7:9-17). But God is not without a witness on the earth for He will seal 144,000 (the elect) Jews just prior to that appearance in heaven of those multitudes who were martyred for their testimony during the first three and a half years of the tribulation. (Revelation 7:1-8). After that, the antichrist will turn his attention to Israel, and with the Abomination of Desolation, and the killing of the two witnesses, many Jews will then realize just who this evil man is. He will declare himself to be God and demand the Jews to worship him in the temple where the Jewish Levitical sacrifices had literally been restored (Daniel 9:27).
Saturday, November 8, 2008
Why Thanksgiving in America?

"Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and
Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to "recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:"Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us.And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to
pardon our national and other transgressions;
to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually;
to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed;
to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord;
to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.
Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D. 1789." Signed - George Washington
God Bless America!
Monday, October 20, 2008
Ancient Bible Passages ahead of Science
Job 28:23-28 - "For He (God) looks to the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens. "When He imparted *weight to the wind and meted out the wa
ters by measure, when He set a limit for the rain and a course for the thunderbolt, then He saw it and declared it; He established it and also searched it out." *Some people have attempted to say that this verse has nothing to do with air pressure. After examining this verse I've found that the reference to the "weight to the wind" can also be translated “how hard the winds should blow.” In view of this it is all the more amazing since the wind velocity, as we well know today is determined by barometric pressures, which is exactly what is indicated in the verse above. So whichever way you want to look at this verse, you can't escape the fact that it does have everything to do with air pressure. The air flows from high pressure to low pressure producing wind. 
ob's day, civilization was still over two thousand years away from that knowledge. Torricelli's Barometer: The Water Cycle :

The slow rotation of the earth toward the east causes the air to be deflected toward the right in the northern hemisphere and toward the left in the southern hemisphere. This deflection of the wind by the earth's rotation is known as the Coriolis effect.
Monday, September 8, 2008
What To Do If You Miss The Rapture
OK, so now you suddenly realize that a bunch of Christians have disappeared, vanished! Thursday, August 14, 2008
The New School Prayer

Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.
If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.
Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.
For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.
We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.
We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's "inappropriate" to teach right from wrong,
We're taught such "judgments" do not belong.
We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.
It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen

Wednesday, August 13, 2008
The Curse of Jeconiah and the Throne of David
In Matthew’s genealogy of Jesus recorded in Matthew 1:12 the name Jeconiah, (aka Jehoiachin and Coniah) appears. Jesus’ ancestry is traced through Jeconiah to Joseph, the stepfather of Jesus Christ. It is through Jeconiah that Jesus Christ rightfully has access to the throne of David. But there is a problem. You see, in Jeremiah 22:24, 30 Jeconiah was cursed by God.24. “As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence;” 30.“Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.”
Most Christians simply ignore the “bloodline” of Joseph, Jesus’ stepfather by simply recognizing that Jesus was born of a virgin. Since the life of the flesh is in the blood and the blood line is passed down through the father, anyone born of Adam or any human male could not redeem himself, let alone humanity and so any curse or stain of sin from either Adam or Jeconiah had no effect on Jesus.
“And think not to say within yourselves, ‘We have Abraham to our father:’ for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham." - problem solved!
On the “Jews for Jesus” website [http://jewsforjesus.org/answers/prophecy/jeconiah] this problem is eloquently addressed. The argument is that Jeconiah repented and God accepted his repentance and reversed the curse. The “Jews for Jesus” cite many extra Biblical Hebrew sources showing God reversed the curse which is discussed in great detail on their website. I can see the reasoning, there I only submit to one source I can accept as infallable, and that’s the Bible.
Saturday, May 24, 2008
Quote of the Month from Jonathan Rosenblum
Thursday, May 1, 2008
Question Darwin and Face the Consequences

What happens when a professor decides to present students with evidence that challenges Darwin's theory? Find out on this episode of ID the Future, where we've highlighted comments from biochemist Nancy Bryson Ph.D., a professor who knows firsthand the importance of academic freedom on college campuses.
Dr. Bryson was removed from her position as head of the division of natural sciences at Mississippi University for Women when she presented criticisms of evolution to a group of honor students. Listen as she recounts the chilling effect the university's censors' actions had on academic freedom and students' ability to question and engage in their material.
Saturday, April 12, 2008
A Very Pleasant Surprise on American Idol

I've noted that many of the songs we sing in our church (Calvary Chapel Chico) don't mention the name of Jesus specifically either, so my reaction was to marvel that God would use the most watched, secular, television program in the world, American Idol, as an instrument to get the Gospel into places that many Christians would or could never go. My thanks to God was to echo the Psalmists words, "This is the LORD's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes." - Psalm 118:23.
While I was on the computer watching the You Tube video of the previous night's performance, I could hear American Idol coming on again on the television in the next room. Then they aired another video of the group singing "Shout to the Lord", only this time the name of Jesus wasn't omitted! This is that performance (4/10/08).
Think of how this song speaks to the person who might have been contemplating taking his or her life. Or the impact of these words of hope to some down and outter who just lost everything, to hear the words, "my comfort, my shelter..." Nothing compares to the promise I have in You!"
That's the Gospel!
Friday, April 11, 2008
A Christian Nation
The prayer at the First Continental Congress 1st Session
H. RES. 888
Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `American Religious History Week' for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.
December 18, 2007
Mr. FORBES (for himself, Mr. MCINTYRE, Mr. AKIN, Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina, Mr. CULBERSON, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mr. FEENEY, Mr. GINGREY, Mr. GOHMERT, Mr. HAYES, Mr. HENSARLING, Mr. HERGER, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. MCHENRY, Mrs. MUSGRAVE, Mr. PEARCE, Mr. PENCE, Mr. PITTS, Mr. RYAN of Wisconsin, Mrs. SCHMIDT, Mr. WALBERG, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mr. WOLF, and Mr. YOUNG of Florida) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as `American Religious History Week' for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.
(1) the use of the Bible to administer the oath;
(2) affirming the religious nature of the oath by the adding the prayer `So help me God!' to the oath;
(3) inaugural prayers offered by the President;
(4) religious content in the inaugural address;
(5) civil leaders calling the people to prayer or acknowledgement of God;
(6) inaugural worship services attended en masse by Congress as an official part of congressional activities; and
(7) clergy-led inaugural prayers, activities which have been replicated in whole or part by every subsequent President;
Whereas the first week in May each year would be an appropriate week to designate as `American Religious History Week':
(2) recognizes that the religious foundations of faith on which America was built are critical underpinnings of our Nation's most valuable institutions and form the inseparable foundation for America's representative processes, legal systems, and societal structures;
(3) rejects, in the strongest possible terms, any effort to remove, obscure, or purposely omit such history from our Nation's public buildings and educational resources; and
(4) expresses support for designation of a `American Religious History Week' every year for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith.
Monday, January 21, 2008
Science Reveals Intelligent Design
Here are some off site resources to access on some issues and answers that I've found helpful. Helpful in a way that it is not biased by the prevailing Darwinian world view being taught to the exclusion of any other theory of origins in Americas public schools. There are at least two other creationist view points in accordance with the Judeo-Christian model and other Intelligent Design (ID) viewpoints that recognize a creator not specific to any religion.
